{"id":1072,"date":"2017-07-30T17:31:07","date_gmt":"2017-07-30T17:31:07","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.watt-evans.com\/blog\/?p=1072"},"modified":"2017-07-30T17:31:37","modified_gmt":"2017-07-30T17:31:37","slug":"gloomy-chick-singers","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.watt-evans.com\/blog\/2017\/07\/30\/gloomy-chick-singers\/","title":{"rendered":"Gloomy Chick Singers"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><i>From four newsgroup posts, dated April 12, 2008; May 5, 2008; and (two of them) August 19, 2012:<\/i><\/p>\n<p>On Sat, 12 Apr 2008 12:49:53 -0400, Lawrence Watt-Evans wrote:<\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s been a running gag for, oh, maybe fifteen or twenty years now that my preferred genre of music isn&#8217;t rock or country or classical, but gloomy chick singers.  There is much truth to this &#8212; but one must understand how I define this, and that I do include some cross-genre stuff.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Singer,&#8221; okay, that&#8217;s a fixed requirement.  Rappers and screamers and narrators and instrumentals don&#8217;t make the cut, but one need not be a solo act; bands with gloomy chicks singing lead count.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Chick&#8221; &#8212; yes, for the most part they must be female, but I&#8217;m willing to include bands with a female lead singer even if they may <i>also<\/i> have a male singer or two (e.g., Dead Can Dance, Transvision Vamp).  There are also certain male singers who I consider cross-genre &#8212; they&#8217;d be gloomy chick singers if they were female (e.g., Meat Loaf or Peter Gabriel).<\/p>\n<p>Ah, but &#8220;gloomy&#8221; &#8212; there&#8217;s the tricky part.  Yes, sometimes I really mean slit-your-wrists depressing, like Portishead, but there are plenty who are only gloomy occasionally, and some who are downright cheerful but still scratch the appropriate itch for me.  I can&#8217;t really explain how this works, I just know it when I hear it.  Heart, while being indisputably chick singers (and quite good), does not qualify, while Sixpence None the Richer, a Christian rock band, does.  Berlin is borderline.  Britney Spears does not qualify, no matter how messed up she may be.<\/p>\n<p><i>Added August 19, 2012:<\/i><\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;ve just bought a couple of MP3 albums off Amazon &#8212; I had a voucher to use up &#8212; that have added new artists to my list of gloomy chick singers, so I thought I&#8217;d repost the above as a reminder of my definitions.<\/p>\n<p>The new ones are Sister Crayon and Jane Siberry &#8212; not that either is actually new at all, but I didn&#8217;t have them in the collection before.<\/p>\n<p><i>Below is a list, originally compiled May 5, 2008 and updated August 19, 2012:<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>As of May 5, 2008:<\/i> This now includes everyone I have an entire album on CD by; I haven&#8217;t included LPs, and there may be some tracks on compilation albums I missed.  (All of them from the 1980s.)<\/p>\n<p>Amos, Tori<br \/>\nBaez, Joan<br \/>\nBel Canto<br \/>\nBelly<br \/>\nBlack Velvet Band<br \/>\nBonham, Traci<br \/>\nBranch, Michelle<br \/>\nBreeders, The<br \/>\nBrennan, Maire<br \/>\nBrightman, Sarah<br \/>\nBush, Kate<br \/>\nCardigans, The<br \/>\nCassidy, Eva<br \/>\nClannad<br \/>\nCline, Patsy<br \/>\nCole, Paula<br \/>\nColvin, Shawn<br \/>\nConcrete Blonde<br \/>\nCowboy Junkies<br \/>\nCranberries, The<br \/>\nDarling Buds, The<br \/>\nDido<br \/>\nDiVinyls<br \/>\nEast of Eden<br \/>\nEnya<br \/>\nEtheridge, Melissa<br \/>\nEurythmics<br \/>\nEvanescence<br \/>\nFahl, Mary<br \/>\nFairport Convention<br \/>\nFleetwood Mac<br \/>\nFlying Lizards, The<br \/>\nFordham, Julia*<br \/>\n4 Non Blondes<br \/>\nFrampton, Dia (added August 19, 2012)<br \/>\nFrente!<br \/>\nGerrard, Lisa<br \/>\nGhost, Amanda<br \/>\nGoldfrapp<br \/>\nGrace Pool<br \/>\nGryner, Emm<br \/>\nHarris, Emmylou<br \/>\nHeart Throbs, The<br \/>\nHepburn<br \/>\nHickman, Sara<br \/>\nHooverphonic<br \/>\nHope Blister, The<br \/>\nIan, Janis<br \/>\nImbruglia, Natalie<br \/>\nIndians, The<br \/>\nInnocence Mission, The<br \/>\nJewel<br \/>\nJoplin, Janis<br \/>\nKatydids<br \/>\nKeineg, Katell<br \/>\nK&#8217;s Choice<br \/>\nLa Bouche<br \/>\nLacuna Coil<br \/>\nLaing, Shona<br \/>\nLauper, Cyndi<br \/>\nLennox, Annie<br \/>\nLetters to Cleo<br \/>\nLisahall<br \/>\nLone Justice<br \/>\nLovich, Lene<br \/>\nLush<br \/>\nMadonna<br \/>\nMaharry, Wendy<br \/>\nMcCall, Jana<br \/>\nMcKee, Maria<br \/>\nMcKennit, Loreena<br \/>\nMcLachlan, Sarah<br \/>\nMeg &#038; Dia (added August 19, 2012)<br \/>\nMelanie<br \/>\nMerchant, Natalie<br \/>\nMinogue, Kylie<br \/>\nMitchell, Joni<br \/>\nMoonpools and Caterpillars<br \/>\nMorley<br \/>\nMotels, The<br \/>\nMyles, Alannah<br \/>\nNicks, Stevie<br \/>\nO&#8217;Connor, Sinead<br \/>\nOctober Project<br \/>\nOne Dove<br \/>\nOne 2 Many<br \/>\nParis, Anika<br \/>\nPoe<br \/>\nPortishead<br \/>\nPrivate Life<br \/>\nRasputina<br \/>\nRenaissance<br \/>\nRepublica<br \/>\nRhodes, Happy<br \/>\nRiver City People<br \/>\nRomeo Void<br \/>\nRoxette<br \/>\nRusby, Kate<br \/>\nScandal<br \/>\nSchmidt, Claudia<br \/>\nShai no Shai<br \/>\nShakespear&#8217;s Sister<br \/>\nSharam, Max<br \/>\nSiberry, Jane (added August 19, 2012)<br \/>\nSiouxsie and the Banshees<br \/>\nSister Crayon (added August 19, 2012)<br \/>\nSixpence None the Richer<br \/>\nSky Cries Mary<br \/>\nSmyth, Patty<br \/>\nSneaker Pimps<br \/>\nSonic Dream Collective<br \/>\nSundays, The<br \/>\nSunscreem<br \/>\n10,000 Maniacs<br \/>\nTexas<br \/>\nTikaram, Tanita<br \/>\n&#8216;Til Tuesday<br \/>\nTosun, Sylvia<br \/>\nTransvision Vamp<br \/>\nTrynin, Jen<br \/>\nTunstall, K.T.<br \/>\nTyler, Bonnie<br \/>\nVega, Suzanne<br \/>\nVelvet Chain<br \/>\nWilson Phillips<br \/>\nWinehouse, Amy<br \/>\nX<br \/>\nXenia (added August 19, 2012)<\/p>\n<p><i>I&#8217;ve added more since.<\/i><\/p>\n<p>==<\/p>\n<p>Borderline cases I&#8217;m tempted to include but have reservations about:<br \/>\n\tAce of Base<br \/>\n\tBenatar, Pat<br \/>\n\tBerlin<br \/>\n\tBlondie<br \/>\n\tBow Wow Wow<br \/>\n\tEn Vogue<br \/>\n\tFranklin, Aretha<br \/>\n\tJackson, Wanda<br \/>\n\tJett, Joan<br \/>\n\tReinhart, Haley (added August 19, 2012)<br \/>\n\tTony! Toni! Tone!<\/p>\n<p>==<\/p>\n<p>Noteworthy non-gloomy chick singers in my collection:<br \/>\n\tBangles, The<br \/>\n\tCarey, Mariah<br \/>\n\tChiffons, The<br \/>\n\tGo-Gos, The<br \/>\n\tJackson, Janet<br \/>\n\tShirelles, The<br \/>\n\tShore, Dinah<\/p>\n<p>==<\/p>\n<p>* I don&#8217;t actually <i>like<\/i> Julia Fordham&#8217;s music, but I have three of her albums &#8212; gifts from one of my fans &#8212; and she definitely qualifies as a gloomy chick singer under my definitions, just a bad one.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>From four newsgroup posts, dated April 12, 2008; May 5, 2008; and (two of them) August 19, 2012: On Sat, 12 Apr 2008 12:49:53 -0400, Lawrence Watt-Evans wrote: It&#8217;s been a running gag for, oh, maybe fifteen or twenty years now that my preferred genre of music isn&#8217;t rock or country or classical, but gloomy&hellip; <a class=\"read-more\" href=\"http:\/\/www.watt-evans.com\/blog\/2017\/07\/30\/gloomy-chick-singers\/\">Read More<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[2],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1072","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-amusements"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.watt-evans.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1072","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.watt-evans.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.watt-evans.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.watt-evans.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.watt-evans.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1072"}],"version-history":[{"count":2,"href":"http:\/\/www.watt-evans.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1072\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":1074,"href":"http:\/\/www.watt-evans.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1072\/revisions\/1074"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.watt-evans.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1072"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.watt-evans.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1072"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.watt-evans.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1072"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}