{"id":1020,"date":"2017-06-16T20:32:56","date_gmt":"2017-06-16T20:32:56","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.watt-evans.com\/blog\/?p=1020"},"modified":"2017-06-16T20:32:56","modified_gmt":"2017-06-16T20:32:56","slug":"the-decline-of-civilizations","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.watt-evans.com\/blog\/2017\/06\/16\/the-decline-of-civilizations\/","title":{"rendered":"The Decline of Civilizations"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><i>From a newsgroup post dated April 23, 2009:<\/i><\/p>\n<p>Over on rec.arts.sf.written there&#8217;s currently a discussion (in a monster thread entitled &#8220;Socialism in SF&#8221; that&#8217;s 90% crap) about the decline of the West as evidenced by the sorry state of the fine arts.<\/p>\n<p>That&#8217;s a subject I find interesting, even though I think 90% of everything everyone says on the subject is wrong &#8212; not the alleged sorry state of the fine arts, but what it says about the state of our civilization.<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;m trying to give shape here to a bunch of complicated and conflicting ideas on the subject, and I&#8217;m not finding the words.  Instead, let me ask everyone out there for opinions:<\/p>\n<p>Are the fine arts in a state of decline?  <\/p>\n<p>Does it matter that opera and ballet are now largely the province of a tiny faction of old-fashioned elitists, given that we have movies and other new media?<\/p>\n<p>Does it mean anything for the health of civilization as a whole if the arts <i>are<\/i> in a state of decline?<\/p>\n<p>Does  it mean anything for the health of civilization as a whole if people <i>think<\/i> the arts are in a state of decline?<\/p>\n<p>Feel free to bring up historical examples like Ming pottery and Byzantine literary forms.<\/p>\n<p>==<\/p>\n<p><i>This did not yield any discussion.  I suppose I misjudged my audience.<\/i><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>From a newsgroup post dated April 23, 2009: Over on rec.arts.sf.written there&#8217;s currently a discussion (in a monster thread entitled &#8220;Socialism in SF&#8221; that&#8217;s 90% crap) about the decline of the West as evidenced by the sorry state of the fine arts. That&#8217;s a subject I find interesting, even though I think 90% of everything&hellip; <a class=\"read-more\" href=\"http:\/\/www.watt-evans.com\/blog\/2017\/06\/16\/the-decline-of-civilizations\/\">Read More<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[3,6],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1020","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-generalities-rants","category-strange-days"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.watt-evans.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1020","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.watt-evans.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.watt-evans.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.watt-evans.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.watt-evans.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1020"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"http:\/\/www.watt-evans.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1020\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":1021,"href":"http:\/\/www.watt-evans.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1020\/revisions\/1021"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.watt-evans.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1020"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.watt-evans.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1020"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.watt-evans.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1020"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}